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Cobearnicus has nailed it - the question of what the note 'A' is tuned to is surely irrelevant (unless, perhaps, your piece is a drone on A...)

What's interesting is how the notes are tuned to each other in the scale. Equal temperament has some rather audible problems with it. Since ambient music very rarely modulates from key to key, it seems sensible that this music should explore other tuning systems wherein intervals are more mathematically 'pure'.

 

(This wouldn't make sense in jazz, though, because in jazz you modulate from key to key a lot, very quickly. Same in classical music. This generally sounds bad in tuning systems other than equal temperament.)



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i have still so much to learn about this, my knowledge is very basic.

 

https://en.wikipedia.../Musical_tuning

https://en.wikipedia...hagorean_tuning


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(This wouldn't make sense in jazz, though, because in jazz you modulate from key to key a lot, very quickly. Same in classical music. This generally sounds bad in tuning systems other than equal temperament.)

 

Or even in most music with (western) acoustic instrumentation.  For example, my guitar is pretty much stuck in equal temperament because that's how instruments are fretted.

 

Now gamelan music, on the other hand... tuning for gamelan ensembles is a whole rabbit hole of weird.  

 

Edit: alright, I just learned this: some of that eerie intense music from Akira was gamelan music in pelog tuning. See here.


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I'm in line with this guy on this topic:

 

https://ask.audio/ar...ct-from-fiction


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Me too.  I'm saving this link, it's a pretty good breakdown. 

 

I'm glad to see most people here are pretty skeptical and rational about this sort of thing.

 

The corresponding thread on Isratrance was pretty messy in comparison. 


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From what I can tell.... 432Hz = Total Woo. 

 

Most DAW's can not even do 432Hz unless it works to like 3 decimal places when changing the tuning. 

 

Also onboard with the article above.



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hmmm...the frequency of the universe...seems psybient would be more popular. ;)



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I'm in line with this guy on this topic:

 

https://ask.audio/ar...ct-from-fiction

 

yep. 440 was invented by fascists for negative vibrations


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You know it amuses me greatly that a community of producers here generally thinks there's nothing to it, everyone seems pretty rational/skeptical... If you judged by listeners of psybient, you'd think that 440hz was a fascist conspiracy.  At least, there's a lot of people like that here in Canada. 

 

Damn hippies, amirite?  *lights incense, sips his kombucha*


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the 440 conspiracy is run by the SAME people as the ones who make the chemtrails  ;)

 

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the 440 conspiracy is run by the SAME people as the ones who make the chemtrails  ;)

 

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Relevant...


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Relevant...


The real conspiracy is that people who play off conspiracy theories against each other are trying to degrade the notion that there is anything conspiratorial going on in the world at all and thus produce a generation of sheep who have the notion of conspiracy debunked. thus I deduce Matt the you are a high powered venusian lizard who will suck out my brains with a straw as soon as look at me.

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How to make 432 Hz tuning in Ableton

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some more technology configuration

http://subaqueousmus...432-essentials/


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Thank you for this thread, it is very informative. I think that 432 ahd 528hz do speak to the universe, inside and out, and am trying to learn more. I had a program once that converted the music, but then I found out the music has to be MADE in those tunings, you can't just convert it. 


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Edit: alright, I just learned this: some of that eerie intense music from Akira was gamelan music in pelog tuning. See here.

 

This video is a pure win - Akira is a masterpiece and it's interesting to know things about how the music of it was made.



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recently there was a discussion on FB at e-mantra profile, got some links to read. will post them here not to loose :

 

https://ask.audio/ar...ct-from-fiction


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in this article it is explained like this

https://ask.audio/ar...ct-from-fiction

 

There have been several videos and images out there presenting beautiful cymatic imagery as proof for the 432 Hz theory. However these images are produced by resonant bodies (water or metal plates) which can be tuned to resonate at different frequencies.

 

This means that metal plates or bodies of water that are tuned to resonate at 440 Hz (just like a string on a guitar) will produce lovely cymatic shapes at… you guessed it, 440 Hz! 
 
The geometric shapes are created due to a well known phenomena called standing waves.

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might be interesting for Ableton producers
 
 
432 Essentials - $19.99
 
Essential tools to jumpstart you into the world of 432 and microtonal music.  77 custom instruments that are tuned to 432 and Scale of Fifths. You can drag and drop the instruments into your production to quickly start creating in 432.
 

http://subaqueousmus...432-essentials/

 

 

and article

 

Full article on 432 and tuning at: http://subaqueousmus.../tuning-to-432/


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