neil (spatialize)

the 440 conspiracy is run by the SAME people as the ones who make the chemtrails OBVS

just using the new isotope delay you can split the delay into 2 bands and have separate delays on each tidy

ah woops someone already posted this

quick quick! free delay available until 10th march https://www.izotope.com/en/products/effects-instruments/ddly-dynamic-delay/

I usually build up some sort of textural sound just to have something to work around. Then add rhythmic synth sounds, percussion, then drums, then bass. All in an 8 or 16 bar loop. Then leave for a while. Come back to it. Remove the crap bits. Work on the loop some more until it's grooving. Leave for a while. Come back to it. Be very critical about what works and what doesn't. When I am satisfied that the core of the track is worth expanding on I will set up very rough sections and jam different synths etc onto different sections. Leave for a while. Come back to it. Be very critical about the crap parts again. Start to blend the different sections into one full arrangement. Start mixing the track (production, eq,compression etc). Add more parts. Leave for a while. Come back. Be very critical again. On the first listen through for a while you immediately know what works and what doesn't. Have confidence in your judgement. Add all the topping off parts. Fx sweeps, backwards crashes etc... Bus tracks to group buses. Compress widen eq at bus level. When you can listen to the track all the way through without reaching for an eq or feeling the need to fiddle with anything then you know you're done..

Yeah I have a thinkpad and that was really excellent for audio, particularly after sticking an ssd in it. I ran reaper and Ableton on it. But,and I don't know what happened, it just started to run really slow. I've done as much as my windows knowledge permits me to do. So I've given up on it on the end,installed Linux on a partitioned drive, and just use it for the Web.:-( A second hand Thinkpad / lenovo appear to be the computer of choice if you're looking for a cheap road into production though.

Hmmm...chorus echo nastydly I think I'll have to check that out too. There is a chorus echo in the effects of trillian and I love the sound of that. Really warm sound. Beautiful on a synth.

Logic stereo delay does most that I need, coupled with the tape delay and delay designer. I also find that native instruments replika is nice as an insert on a channel and has a degree of warmth to it. Also valhalla freq echo but I've only used that live so far. Must check it out in the studio actually.

Agreed. Or two. My only outboard analogue at the moment is the minibrute. I keep thinking I don't like it very much but then I hear back some of the sounds I've made with it and it's quite unique. I fancy a bass station 2 really. You can't under estimate the Arturia Prophet V for an authentic hardware sound. Tom green from the orb / another fine day put me onto it years ago. As a Prophet user for many years he really rated the quality of its emulation. It's great, love its sound. Pair it up with a novation sl with my own Prophet V template built in and it comes alive.

Don;t TEMPT me Frodo!!! Although I have heard that analogue synths are better than eating, transport and paying your rent :-D

Or you could call this thread "production feedback thread "? At the moment there may not be enough producers on this forum to make it work though.

It's got a more psy trance flavour. I.e lots of threads on kick and bass.

Having multiple tracks having feedback within one thread worked well on the psymusic forum. Personally I'd be more inclined to throw up a little idea if I didn't have to make a whole thread dedicated to it.

Could just try it here and if it's not right then you could move it gagarin ?

I propose a thread where people can link to tracks they are working on if they have a problem with production. Could be a complete track or it could just be an embyonic 8 bar loop. We can ask forum members for mix feedback / thoughts on the sounds used / track structure etc We can ask for constructive criticism....or we can just ask for some encouragement to help us see the good in our track.

persistence, determination. mastery of any skill requires it. encouragement along the way helps too and so forums like these are invaluable. I learnt so much from the producers on psymusic.co.uk on the media production forum. Really helps to smooth the way.

yeah, agreed. plus learn a handful of synths.....well. learn them and use them consistently instead of scattering attention half heartedly across 20 different synths and not knowing any of them properly. That approach pushes you towards using the presets which are designed to be big and brash and so don;t always sit well in a mix. maybe 1 x analogue emulation 1 x VA 1 x FM synth 1 x Digital synth Should cover most things. ALso don;t go crazy with the amount of software you put on your computer. Learn what you have first and when you start to feel that you are missing a certain timbre, then seek out the plug-in for that sound. But really you can do a lot with very little. And then when you've got a decent, well grooved system with gear you know, just make music with that for a few years. You can't spend your life on a learning curve.

if it pushes people towards bandcamp more then all well and good.

what about ipads for djing? What are people's thoughts on this? Certainly portable.

grrrrr , the new prefix for yosemite :-)

actually just found out that you can reorder the playback of the your track with the Playback plugin and you can trigger midi information within a patch but whether it can syncs up or not i dont know.

Rough Guide to Music of the Sahara. Loving it.

http://www.apple.com/uk/mainstage Just recently discovered this. It;s like logic pro in a convenient performance ready package for only about £20. I had heard about it but it;s not included with Logic anymore (it used to be) and is a seperate purchase. So I thought I would check it out. You can play audio files in there, even stems and set up fx sends etc. It's more for a a keyboard player than for live remix sequencing (ala ableton) but it depends how you perform. If you like to do effects sends from a track separate from the main stem and play synths live, but don;t need control over the structure of your track liek ableton, then this is a great option. If you don;t have logic then this gives you access to all of Logic's instruments for £20! Sculpture, Alchemy etc :-O And I do believe you can rewire mainstage into another sequencer. If you do have logic and already know these instruments then you have the advantage that you already know the plug ins and can get cracking with it. The only thing that stops me from using it live with spatialize is that you can;t play midi files alongside the audio stems. I like to send midi parts to different synths and tweak them and also have program chanegs for my synth happening at the correct part of the track. But I can maybe imagine this becoming a feature at some point though (the ability to line up a midi file next to the audio player plugin). But if you're playing keyboards in a band it;s perfect. You can also route guitars and vocals into there for processing. Trent Raznor uses it live and changes his patches with a footpedal, though i;m not quite sure how it deals with latency? Perhaps on the latest MBPro's the processing is fast enough to crank up the buffer? Don't know. I spent last night using the loopback plugin. Very well implemented and fairly intuitive live looper which i think i will use with my experiments in silence project to do live improvised soundscapes. Probably set up 5 or 6 on the bus at set level and use a korg nanocontrol to control the record, undo and fade out button. Yes it has a fade out button too and you can specify the number of seconds that it fades out over. It;s well thought out for midi implementation too. The whole thing is bit like a massively expanded Reason Combinator in that you hook up your hardware controls to the smart controls and then assign the smart controls to synth parameters from there. Also well though out with the concepts of Concert, set and patch level. For instance you can set up a smart control for the master volume in concert, a smart control for a plug in in the effects bus at set level. Then you can have multiple patches that you can recall throughout a track at patch level and have smart controls routed for each of these. You can also configure the performance screen to show only what you want to see. For instance for a live looping set up I could see the waveforms of the looper scrolling, along with record and undo buttons. All configurable and midi assignable. Worth a look at from a few different angles.

didn;t know this was there.

Listening to Introducing Mamane Barka - Traditional Saharan music - quite minimal. Has repeated listening quality. Not psybient but what the hell... :-)