andorra 117 Report post Posted June 22, 2015 Hi guys, I have few question about reverbs and how you use them. First of all, what's your favorite reverb (VST) you like to use as your workhorse? How many reverbs do you use in a song and how do they differ from each other? I mean do you have for example one reverb for hihats, other for snare and claps and one more with a bit different settings for synths or even for every synth it's own reverb? What's you workflow here? I'd love to hear some tips and practices of the use of reverbs. Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andorra 117 Report post Posted June 22, 2015 So far I've been using Anwida Soft's 'DX Reverb light' which is a free vst plugin (http://www.anwida.com/product.asp?pid=7). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phase47 24 Report post Posted June 23, 2015 I like Native Instrument's Reverb Classics - the RC 24 and RC 48. I demo'd a bunch, and those were the best (for me). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mønsterhed 41 Report post Posted June 26, 2015 I use Valhalla's reverb plugins. They're pretty good, but I would have loved to have bought Eventide's Ultrareverb back when it came out and was affordable. Don't have a specific workflow with it yet. Depends on a lot of things. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andorra 117 Report post Posted June 30, 2015 Just noticed that TAL has released new reverb plugin. And it's free http://tal-software.com/products/tal-reverb-4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
via'on 8 Report post Posted October 28, 2015 d16 Toraverb : http://d16.pl/toraverb IK Multimedia CSR Hall : http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/csr/ Both are good for long reverb times, I like to use Toraverb for more grainy reverbs, and CSR hall for smooth ones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spinnet (One Arc Degree) 89 Report post Posted November 8, 2015 Mostly using Ableton's built-in (plus convolution reverb). Very light & easy to use and covers all my needs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flexagon 22 Report post Posted November 10, 2015 I use the Ultrareverb from Eventide, mostly I mix as you would on a small analogue board, so 1 main reverb on an Aux return. Sometimes I'll add a second HUGE and long 'verb on another aux, often with delay doing weird things before or after it, gives Eno style massive ambience and effects etc. I tend not to do much more than that and keep it simple. Sometimes snares and claps get their own reverb added to the channel, but that's mainly to make them 'thicker' not to make them sound like they are in big spaces. 1 neil (spatialize) reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sephira 5 Report post Posted November 10, 2015 Use my Eventide Eclipse. NOM NOM! Normally on an AUX channel but sometimes quick bounces for specific verbs on specific pieces of audio. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flowertz 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2015 hey guys, I keep returning to Eos https://www.audiodamage.com/effects/product.php?pid=AD023 it's really nice sounding reverb, other than that maybe lately breverb: http://overloud.com/products/breverb2.php and sometimes valhalla's Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neil (spatialize) 77 Report post Posted November 16, 2015 I second the Valhalla reverbs. Very nice and well priced. Don't hesitate to buy them. Sits just beautifully and easily in a mix. If you have reverb software that loads reverb convolutions then you can load in impulses from classic hardware reverb units. Mr Ishq sells impulses that he has sampled off in his Eventide HD3000. If you have Logic then Space Designer can load them. For another big reverb, if you have Reaktor then Space Master is really nice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flowertz 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2015 For another big reverb, if you have Reaktor then Space Master is really nice. thanks for the reminder!I need to go back to Space master... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neil (spatialize) 77 Report post Posted November 17, 2015 Hi guys, I have few question about reverbs and how you use them. First of all, what's your favorite reverb (VST) you like to use as your workhorse? How many reverbs do you use in a song and how do they differ from each other? I mean do you have for example one reverb for hihats, other for snare and claps and one more with a bit different settings for synths or even for every synth it's own reverb? What's you workflow here? I'd love to hear some tips and practices of the use of reverbs. Thanks! reverb rarely gets used on kick and bass, although sometimes if it works it works. reverb is usually used on an aux channel as sharing reverbs helps to conserve cpu cycles but it also helps to place the track into one space. this replicates how reverb would work in a live setting as musicians are playing in one room. gives cohesiveness. don't forget to set your reverb on the aux channel to 100% wet. On drums i will often use a drum plate reverb. The effect of this is something like a gated drum sound but with a little extra openess. If you have Logic DAW check out the "big drums" setting which has a perfect impluse for drums in my opnion. Sometimes you can use these on whole loops. I would try not to use cathedral or large spaces reverbs on the drums too much (although in small amounts it does work) except for one off massive reverbs on one off drum sounds, as is said above. I find that spring reverbs are better for giving lots of reverb to drums without taking up too much headroom in the mix. Very useful effect for downtempo music. to give an example... one of my snare sounds may send off to a couple of reverb aux channels. it have a little bit of "big drum" reverb just to give it some body and a little bit of spring reverb to give it space. same process with a percussion loop. I often apply larger reverbs such as hall, church, cathedral onto pads and atmospheres. actually this is where valhalla comes in very nicely as it doesn;t thicken the mix too much. so i often have about 3 reverbs going per track plus a couple of delays. for rythmic synth parts i would go for delays first to add space to the sound as they take up less space in the mix. Hall plates, spring reverbs or very small amounts of larger reverbs can be used in varying amounts. if it's a busy track sometimes you might want to put an eq after the reverb and filter out some lower frequencies, but just be careful that you don;t loose the body of the track in more ambient moments. you can always automate the eq so that you can experience the full frequency range during intros/breakdowns etc.. i think the important thing with reverb though is not to overdo it. too much reverb and your track will sound lifeless and dull...and small with no headroom as reverb just eats up your mix. if you feel that you've overdone the reverb on the track you can always just try turning the volume of the aux channel down. but try delays aswell to add body to the mix. lastly, for massive space pad reverbs and deep ambience, set the track channel fx bus send to "pre send", take the volume of the channel right down and then when you adjust the fx send you would get a super wet ambient sound. the only issue with this approach is that it can create massive reverb eq spikes so, either give the track volume a little increase to add a little body and / or insert an eq after the reverb and use a spectrum analyser to see where the sound is bunching up and cut it, often very strongly, there. 1 andorra reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mønsterhed 41 Report post Posted November 19, 2015 Good tips! Will remember all that (I hope!) 1 neil (spatialize) reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andorra 117 Report post Posted November 20, 2015 Thanks for all the replies! Good tips to try out and learn production. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iacchus 25 Report post Posted December 10, 2015 Using the Plug and Mix digital reverb a lot at the moment for work in progress, nicest VST ive ever used But for my final mixdown I will probably bring out my Lexicon MX400, or hire a spring reverb for a few days Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neil (spatialize) 77 Report post Posted December 10, 2015 what is your workflow with that? I assume you will send out stems or individual tracks to a mixer, add fx via a send, and the re record. Do you record just the reverb sound back into the computer and then feed this into the mix? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iacchus 25 Report post Posted December 10, 2015 Once I'm happy with the settings I send the track or group out and record it back in on 100% wet, then have the verb as a separate track so I can adjust the mix, or filter... often I make it a bit darker, or stick a flanger on it 1 Flying Lotus reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neil (spatialize) 77 Report post Posted December 11, 2015 how do you deal with latency with that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neil (spatialize) 77 Report post Posted December 11, 2015 just knock back the effects by 2 x times the latency of your soundcard? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iacchus 25 Report post Posted December 12, 2015 in ableton i use the track delay to calibrate it with the mix at 50% or so, so i can hear the transients, then i turn up to 100% wet for the record. Hadnt thought of a way in Bitwig, which Im using now, I shall try your suggestion 2 neil (spatialize) reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Freak Flag 33 Report post Posted December 23, 2015 I third Valhalla. Valhalla sounds amazing. I've only tried the demo but I'll probably get it. I'm rocking Logic, so Space Designer is where it's at. But sometimes, too many IR reverbs sounds almost too spacious. I have minimum 4 reverbs on sends - Long, Short, DrumVerb, and Snare. I like big wet spacious tracks, so most sounds get sent to Long, which is usually a giant Space Designer patch. Bass gets sent to Short or nothing at all; sometimes live-tracked guitars get sent to Short, if Long sounds too muddy. Short is a short reverb with <5ms pre-delay. Drums go to DrumVerb (heh), but usually only ever so slightly. Usually no pre-delay. It's just for high-end shimmer and buss glue. Snare goes to Snare, which may be just about anything. Whatever the track needs. Big and metallic in a dubsteppy track. Warm and quiet in a chillout tune. Maybe spring reverb in a breaks track. I high-pass my reverbs at 200hz or more, and may take off some of the top end. Clutter in the mix builds up quick with too much reverb. I also use an Euroracked Erbe-Verb, which is an awesome DSP reverb module. Anyone here make their own IRs for convolution? I'm super interested in trying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phase47 24 Report post Posted December 26, 2015 I've just picked up an Eventide Space. I'm sorry NI Reverbs... huge difference in quality, depth, and transparency. Wow. Highly recommended. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andorra 117 Report post Posted February 24, 2016 Thanks for Matt and others too sharing some good tips here! Some I've already started using in my productions I also tried Valhalla demo version and decided to purchase it immediately after hearing how good it actually does sound.. So I fourth Valhalla here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Freak Flag 33 Report post Posted February 24, 2016 Haha I just read my post on here about demoing Valhalla and chuckled. After demoing Valhalla for like 4 days I bought both Room and Vintage Verb . Both are amazing, and each is like a different flavor. I'm sure i would have been fine with just one but... damn. Those are by far the best sounding algorithmic software reverbs I've ever used. They have fully replaced Space Designer on all my busses on my primary template. Maybe I'll go back someday but... Valhalla all the way for now. As a side note... Their simple frequency shifting delay (here) is excellent, totally free, and takes real-time knob tweaking/automation really, really well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites